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Vieux 24/03/2007, 12h12
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Gaya acts, Monkey reacts.

Rule breaking, is defenitly, the most attitude that make human kind so different from other beings.
Since History was born, mankind has always challenged everything that tried to controle her.

First humans known, Adam and Eve, were the first one that showed God, that trying to controle our brains, would be a hard work.

Talented Chuck Palahniuk said once in interview, that after Fight Club were published, many people confessed that they did put porn frames on family movie, the ones who watched the movie based on this novel will understand.

For many years, I always have been fascinated by anarchy and all people that broke the law.
Either was it divine, parental or govermental.

What did Adam and Eve, I think that the person who explained it by the best way was the Danish thinker Soren Kirkgaard.
Soren explained that one of the most necessary fact in our lives is to show and prove that we're free, even if our self destruction would be the price.

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It's only when you lose everything that you could do whatever you want to do.
Soren shows Adam and Eve as the most evident example, they were happy and glad in the Garden of Eden, they had whatever they want to have except one thing, eating from the apple tree.
Now they're no longer free, there is a rule, there is a rule to break and they did it.

I always believed, that whenever we are to prove our freedom, we'll do it.
We can't accept that we are forbidden to do something, being slaves is one of our biggest and scarest phobia.
And everything we do think that something's possible, we'll do it.

I mean, we flied, we reached the moon and now we're planning to move out of this planet.

I don't seek to repand anarchy, even if I see that it's inevitable, but I do think that if we let any something of controle spells our behaving, we'll be fucked, proper fucked.
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Vieux 26/03/2007, 12h20
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Re : Gaya acts, Monkey reacts.

Then we already are!! I mean fucked… because we are not enjoying our freedom as it was given to us. If we were free, no that is not the way to say it because indeed, we are free… but, if we had the certitude of getting away with exerting our freedom, it would be anarchy whether we like it or not: Crazy feet kissers would go kissing everybody’s feet, and we would probably see a lot of grown-ups dressed in babies’ diapers running in the streets (euuurk!!!)

Talking about myself, I wouldn’t pay a tiny “rikiki” attention to a…. let’s say any button on my way. But if you write a huge red warning on it that reads: “don’t push, high universal disaster risk” I’d probably be fighting my fingers like crazy trying to hold them back from pushing that stupid button!
It wouldn’t have been that long for me before I decide not to type that stupid series of numbers on the computer (thank you John Locke, it was about time to!!).
It’s not really about rule breaking, even though I was a one of the best rule breakers ever, at home, school… Now it’s more about hating to be told what to do. Realizing that people are expecting things (no matter what they are) from you is just frustrating… unfortunately we tend to give away our most fundamental right and trait, being free, only to fit into our world.
I sometimes have the feeling that I m just emerging from a nightmare where I was leading another person’s life. Pretending to be what I am not only to please my loved ones and my entourage….
Nahhh, that ain’t me… as long as I don’t hurt anyone, I’ll keep on pushing all the buttons
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Re : Gaya acts, Monkey reacts.

Yeeeees, anoushka, you're soooo fucking right about the red warning button.

It's just like everytime, I'm in a plain, I can't fight myself thinking about what if I open the rescue door, it's as if it was always screaming and begging to be opened.
Or you know, when I'm drivin, the handle brake, it's just there as don't-touch-cock that yells to be pulled.

So it's an existing feeling, glad to see you're aware of it

In you're third paragraph you wrote about the difference between (even if there is a thin nuance between these two points) Rule breaking and the fact that we hate being leaded or told to do something, our eager.
Relative way to express our freedom, though.

In the world we live in, we are no longer free as before.
I can't deny the fact that it's necessary to organise our way to act, since we're selfish, and also necessary to stop foot kissers from expressing their needs or having your professor teaching you in her huggies (I agree with ya, that would be disgusting. Mrs, Fatima in huggies yeeeek!)
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Re : Gaya acts, Monkey reacts.

Pushing the red button ......

What if u r controled to think that by not clicking it u have gained control of something .... while it is just an illusion of control !!??!!

Since one knows human nature of "5alaf to3raf", u can be controled into beleiving that u have control .... and yess, u will think indeed that u do have the control till some point when u discover u have been told a lie !!

In philosophy, that is what we have been told, "l'homme de la caverne" !!

Anyhow, I do beleive that if anarchy exists, no freedom could be established, since it is the jungle and only the taughest would stay alive ....

Examples : Irak, Soudan, ..........

Now, about hating to be told what to do ...

As long as we live in a society, u will have to be told what to do ... and u will do tell some ppl what to do , that is the way it goes !

Ok, great, what if we try to establish communism ... they did try, and there is a huge difference between Marx thoughts and the way it was applied !!


Adam and Eve, don't u think, for those who do beleive in god that, god controled them or did know that they would do so .... " ya3lamou al ghayb" ... it was just an example for the rest of the humanity ... u r given a choice , do the best of it !

For those who don't really beleive in god, see it as a trap that the creator would leave behind ... no matter the amount of happiness, the money given, the only fucking thing that they wanted was that damned apple ... they had all the fruits on earth ... the Apple , why ??? WHY ???

hmmmmmmmmmmmm ........

Stinks as it may seem, but that is humankind, a big bunch of mistakes, and an endless amount of excuses and forgivness seek.....

We are both, and evil and angels, inside of each a huge world, in wihich evil is fighting good ...

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